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Topic: BPPPA....farce??????

Danny, you seem to have some big opinions for someone that does'nt even play on the tour, maybe if you was a regular like the rest of us then you would appriciate what we are saying. With regard to asking Ted face to face, this has been done by a number of players with no explanation given.
When we see you turning up for every tournement then perhaps your comments will be more valid.

My comments are as valid as everybody elses.

I know a fair amount about the tour and how it's run. And I'm not disagreeing with peoples opinion that things need to progress further and there needs to be changes.

I just think some of you guys approach it in the wrong manner.

Danny, the points have been made both verbally and here on this forum. I recall lengthy discussions between Ted and players taking place over 12 months ago with regards to areas for improvement. We discussed various things such as tapping the tables, changing to alternate break, splitting the draw into sections and playing out each section so as to allow the rest of the players in the other sections a set amount of time before they had to return to the club rather than just hanging about for hours on end in the club. Another idea was to enable entries to be prepaid like on the Euro Tour so the draw could be done the day before (as with the EPT). All these points were raised face to face with Ted and in a friendly manner. As of yet, not one of these improvements has been implemented and have not been given any reasons why not, other than the tables can't be tapped because Rileys won't allow it. Strange seeing that both EPT events have had 'tapped' tables.
So Danny, how do you suggest we take this forward??

Write a letter and include a stamped addressed envelope inside with the questions you want answered to:

Ted Bristow
BPPPA
23 Kendal Rd
Stretford Marina
M32 0DZ

Thanks! Have you not understood any of the comments made by the various players. The points have all been raised before, on more than one occasion, in various different formats, and to no avail. Why should I / anybody else have to go to the trouble of writing a letter when nobody at the BPPPA has yet had the courtesy to give a response to any of the various players who have raised these points. At the end of the day, all the players want is a better tour, and most of the points raised don't even relate to a lack of money, so should be achievable.

the tapping tables problem is obvious...

Fair enough the EPT tap their tables! but they only have 6 managers to convince.

BPPPA has far more, and if one manager insists no! Then it can't be done at any event. Because the tour will be inconsistent.

And if you want an answer THAT badly! You shouldn't mind writing a letter.

And I'm sure if the BPPPA was to lower its number of events, and stop sending teams abroad and stop giving the youth players fantastic opportunities (the future of the sport). It could produce higher payouts like the EPT does.

Danny, you are a lost cause, nothing you say is of any relavance to this thread, you dont play on the tour so I suggest that until you do then you keep your ridiculous unhelpful comments to yourself. As you are such abig pal of Ted's why dont you find out the answers for us.

if you want scoreboards so badly, get a group of players to put 10 quid each in a pot at the next three events. Help the BPPPA, YOU sponsor it and donate some scoreboards.

everything I have said is relevant and valid.

first useful thing you have said, maybe that's the way to go. As for sending teams abroad the majoritory of the expense has to be covered by the individual player, the top 4/5 are invited to play in the Europeans which cost the players approx £1000 each. The seniors at the moment has to be paid for by the individuals apart from the team event entry.

Fair enough our opinions might be different and we might not agree. But saying my points are irrelevant and invalid is a bit silly!

Danny, how are your comments valid ? you have numerous PLAYERS from the tour explaining how on numerous occasions these questions have been asked. Why now will one letter to Ted get these answers. And to be honest, why the the devils playground should I write a letter.
You are beginning to annoy me with your Blinkerethisd views of the Tour, and from one who doesn't actually play on it, I can't see why.
So why is it you don't play on this Tour where there is 'no' room for improvement.

I've never said there is no room for improvement. Infact I have said the total opposite!

And I don't play on the tour because quite simply I can't afford to. Well I can't afford to travel anyway because I don't drive.

I want to go back into full time education which is another reason why I don't play on the tour.

Perhaps if you got a job then spent your cash on entering and travelling accross the country like we do then you would appriciate what is being said. If i did'nt enter the comps i would keep my opinions to myself.

Well as seen as this has got personal I'll keep away.

But I do agree things could be improved. I do appreciate that you have all asked before.

I just don't agree that coming on here and raising points in the manner you do is correct.

Writing a letter with a stamped addressed enevelope is usually a dead cert for getting a response.

if you beleive that you will beleive anything.

Danny, as much as I don't wanna get personal I don't think some of your views are valid. The likes of maverrick, player have raised good points and you are wrong to say this is an incorrect place to raise concerns. This is a forum! And these points have been made many times before and still no answers, that is why this thread is a mirror image of one, even two years ago when the same questions were asked.

Why are these questions still being asked? Because the BPPPA hasn't given answers and hasn't progressed in the last 2 years. The players that pay their money and play every tour event seem to agree on this.

Christ, let's get a bit of focus back to this post shall we....

Players are getting passinate on this forum about things they believe are damaging the 9 ball tour in this country. Totally valid. What I can't understand is why people expect a response from the BPPPA everytime something upsets them. Sure there's a lot of valid points on here, but complaining about it on this site isn't necessarily the best way to go about it in my opinion.

We have a players council that represents all players on the BPPPA tour do we not, why are people not complaining to a rep about the things that matter to them??? Ted is busy trying to run our events as best he can with the resources available to him, perhaps he can't always spend time with people to answer every question thrown at him? However, this is what the council should be used for. Unfortunately I don't think its being used to its full potential right now but this can change. If the council members don't know how passinate people feel about the issues listed in this thread, how can they be expected to raise them on our behalf? The mere fact that none of this has been brought to the attention of the reps (well, the ones I've talked to anyway) suggests to me that there's some sort of communication issue here.

If you have a problem with your ntl telephone, do you call BT! Same applies here folks....

On 2006-09-03 23:57 , TheSurgeon Wrote:
Well said Si!

I work for Cable & Wireless now though!!!!

But I am one of the player's council on the bpppa and if you want to pass anything on to me I will do my best to make sure it gets heard & listened to... Just send me a PM if you want my email or tel number...