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posticon   Posted: 2012-05-30 18:25

its not as though theres 100s of pounds to be won,paying a 10er in and am sumising the tables are on free play,think so anyway,so getting free practice for a 10er and playing competetive pool against better or lesser players is a bargain,imo all this does is drag pool further down

maybe include cat 2s but handicap them if thats the way forward,up and coming players like lunny who just wants to compete and play,all its doing is just killing off young talent

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posticon   Posted: 2012-05-30 18:32

plus anyone with a brain only knows you only improve by playing better players,not disrespecting anyone here but when you play a player and you know your goin to get a lot of chances makes you take silly shots on and not give them enough care,you wont improve doin that,playing a better player will improve your game,stop you taking silly shots on and try and programme your mind into looking for the right shot and giving the table more attention

maybe alot fo cat 3 4 5 players dont want to improve and like gettin a few chances a rack,not the way forward if you want to get better

some of my mates are lower catergory players and i know when i practice with them im goin to get alot of chances so basically go for stupid shots,practice with a better player and makes me think alot more



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posticon   Posted: 2012-05-30 22:15

Well said Doc. Every word spot on.



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posticon   Posted: 2012-05-30 22:40

sounds awesome this comp im in



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posticon   Posted: 2012-05-30 23:04

I was excluded once......it just meant they put me on a list and I wasn't allowed near schools or playgrounds....



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posticon   Posted: 2012-05-30 23:15

Well said doc. So what your saying Andy is that cat2s only play in big tourneys? No, I'm not trying to cause a stir but cutting players like myself out of tournaments is just not good for pool, I appreciate that you get more business by putting these comps on as players don't want to play when the better players are in that's just how it is. But putting all tournaments cat 3/4/5 isnt great for anyone in the long run IMO because the good players loose all interest as there's no tourneys!

And throwing cash at a better player is 100% different to playing a 10 tournament.



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posticon   Posted: 2012-05-31 23:49

On 2012-05-30 23:04 , LeedsHighlander Wrote:

!!! QUOTE !!!

I was excluded once......it just meant they put me on a list and I wasn't allowed near schools or playgrounds....


You aswell Derek? Ive had to move house twice because i lived too close to the aforementioned......


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posticon   Posted: 2012-05-31 23:57

On 2012-05-30 18:32 , unique Wrote:

!!! QUOTE !!!

plus anyone with a brain only knows you only improve by playing better players,not disrespecting anyone here but when you play a player and you know your goin to get a lot of chances makes you take silly shots on and not give them enough care,you wont improve doin that,playing a better player will improve your game,stop you taking silly shots on and try and programme your mind into looking for the right shot and giving the table more attention

maybe alot fo cat 3 4 5 players dont want to improve and like gettin a few chances a rack,not the way forward if you want to get better

some of my mates are lower catergory players and i know when i practice with them im goin to get alot of chances so basically go for stupid shots,practice with a better player and makes me think alot more


Absolutely spot on Doc lad. Im a cat 5 player at the minute, but im striving to improve and the only players i enjoy practicing with are Lunny, Sam Hirst and Del Sim. All better than me, but on my day, if im taking my time thinking about the racks, i at least give them something to think about. If im payng a tenner into a tourney, knowing im not a very good player, ive surely got to know that there will be better players and a better standard of pool awaiting me in the latter stages, no matter what discipline, 9ball or English 8 ball, the principle is the same. That is how tournament pool works.

GB9 people pay hundreds of ££s to enter, and the likes of Mark Gray, Burford, Hall etc are there. It doesnt make sense to me?

These tournaments where the cat3 players are the best ill come up against, for me personally, would give me experience of a tournament situation, not generally something ive had before at 9 ball, and im glad there are things like this around local to me, but i dont think there are enough comps where the likes of Mark, Arfan etc can compete either and can see why they may get a little miffed at the situation.

Just my opinion of course :)

PS Liam Waterworth is tall and ugly


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posticon   Posted: 2012-06-01 00:09

On 2012-05-30 13:42 , BFrench501 Wrote:

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Excluding people for being too good is totally wrong. Especially when they aren't yet in the bracket to compete with the elite. They are in no mans land and I don't think it is fair. Victims of their own moderate success...


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posticon   Posted: 2012-06-01 00:52

On 2012-05-31 23:57 , Quagmire Wrote:

!!! QUOTE !!!

On 2012-05-30 18:32 , unique Wrote:

!!! QUOTE !!!

plus anyone with a brain only knows you only improve by playing better players,not disrespecting anyone here but when you play a player and you know your goin to get a lot of chances makes you take silly shots on and not give them enough care,you wont improve doin that,playing a better player will improve your game,stop you taking silly shots on and try and programme your mind into looking for the right shot and giving the table more attention

maybe alot fo cat 3 4 5 players dont want to improve and like gettin a few chances a rack,not the way forward if you want to get better

some of my mates are lower catergory players and i know when i practice with them im goin to get alot of chances so basically go for stupid shots,practice with a better player and makes me think alot more


Absolutely spot on Doc lad. Im a cat 5 player at the minute, but im striving to improve and the only players i enjoy practicing with are Lunny, Sam Hirst and Del Sim. All better than me, but on my day, if im taking my time thinking about the racks, i at least give them something to think about. If im payng a tenner into a tourney, knowing im not a very good player, ive surely got to know that there will be better players and a better standard of pool awaiting me in the latter stages, no matter what discipline, 9ball or English 8 ball, the principle is the same. That is how tournament pool works.

GB9 people pay hundreds of ££s to enter, and the likes of Mark Gray, Burford, Hall etc are there. It doesnt make sense to me?

These tournaments where the cat3 players are the best ill come up against, for me personally, would give me experience of a tournament situation, not generally something ive had before at 9 ball, and im glad there are things like this around local to me, but i dont think there are enough comps where the likes of Mark, Arfan etc can compete either and can see why they may get a little miffed at the situation.

Just my opinion of course :)

PS Liam Waterworth is tall and ugly



If a lower cat player beats a cat 2 or 3 player it gives so much confidence knowing he can beat the better players,confidence is key,crazy how lampposts see my posts as digs,should look at them as constructive posts,maybe things might improve then,no brains some people


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posticon   Posted: 2012-06-01 03:13

On 2012-06-01 00:52 , unique Wrote:

!!! QUOTE !!!

On 2012-05-31 23:57 , Quagmire Wrote:

!!! QUOTE !!!

On 2012-05-30 18:32 , unique Wrote:

!!! QUOTE !!!

plus anyone with a brain only knows you only improve by playing better players,not disrespecting anyone here but when you play a player and you know your goin to get a lot of chances makes you take silly shots on and not give them enough care,you wont improve doin that,playing a better player will improve your game,stop you taking silly shots on and try and programme your mind into looking for the right shot and giving the table more attention

maybe alot fo cat 3 4 5 players dont want to improve and like gettin a few chances a rack,not the way forward if you want to get better

some of my mates are lower catergory players and i know when i practice with them im goin to get alot of chances so basically go for stupid shots,practice with a better player and makes me think alot more


Absolutely spot on Doc lad. Im a cat 5 player at the minute, but im striving to improve and the only players i enjoy practicing with are Lunny, Sam Hirst and Del Sim. All better than me, but on my day, if im taking my time thinking about the racks, i at least give them something to think about. If im payng a tenner into a tourney, knowing im not a very good player, ive surely got to know that there will be better players and a better standard of pool awaiting me in the latter stages, no matter what discipline, 9ball or English 8 ball, the principle is the same. That is how tournament pool works.

GB9 people pay hundreds of ££s to enter, and the likes of Mark Gray, Burford, Hall etc are there. It doesnt make sense to me?

These tournaments where the cat3 players are the best ill come up against, for me personally, would give me experience of a tournament situation, not generally something ive had before at 9 ball, and im glad there are things like this around local to me, but i dont think there are enough comps where the likes of Mark, Arfan etc can compete either and can see why they may get a little miffed at the situation.

Just my opinion of course :)

PS Liam Waterworth is tall and ugly



If a lower cat player beats a cat 2 or 3 player it gives so much confidence knowing he can beat the better players,confidence is key,crazy how lampposts see my posts as digs,should look at them as constructive posts,maybe things might improve then,no brains some people



Just because you beat a good player doesn't mean anything..... i have beaten very good players but will still consider myself to be in the bottom 10% of players in the UK


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posticon   Posted: 2012-06-01 07:46

I didn't say it meant anything,i said it gives you confidence knowing you can compete

I know when I beat uzzell n Gray it was more than just a win to me,knowing if I can beat players like that I fear no one

Drm if beating good players means nothing to you,why play,your telling me if you beat Appleton/peach/melling n co it would feel like beating Liam Waterworth,as the yanks say,av a day off



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posticon   Posted: 2012-06-01 09:58

Pretty much pal...... i see 9ball as a game played for fun. Winning means nothing!!!

And beating Waterworth would be just as unrealistic!!!!



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posticon   Posted: 2012-06-01 10:40

Beat better player - learb - improve. Simples. Im very fortunate to have unlimited access to practice with the most talented youngster in the country, and learn something every time i play against MARK. I dont fear playing anyone, esprcially not for a tenner. For £100, i would definitely want handicaps, but i wouldnt be cutting them out of tourneys.

That isnt to say that Liams idea is a bad one, it certainly isnt, but as i said before, and as Lunny has said in other threads, not enough tourneys for him, Arfan, Chris etc to play inbetween GB9 events. If theres regular tourneys including the better players, there wouldnt be this discussion, and everything would be hunkydory



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posticon   Posted: 2012-06-01 10:44

On 2012-06-01 09:58 , DRM Wrote:

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Pretty much pal...... i see 9ball as a game played for fun. Winning means nothing!!!

And beating Waterworth would be just as unrealistic!!!!


If you don't play competitive then I see where your coming from,if you played gb9 or Sumat and took a big name out believe me it would mean something,when I beat mark gray,il happily admit I could have knocked a hamshank out in the manner I won,each to there own I suppose


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posticon   Posted: 2012-06-01 10:51

I don't play competitive at all. I just enjoy playing.

As for tournaments. I don't do GB9 but to give u a clue how uncompetitive I really am I have thrown matches against mates to let them through as the winning/money meant more to them........ I'm not saying that's right to do but just giving u the picture so u see I'm not bothered win or lose against anyone even the leg-end Mark Gray


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posticon   Posted: 2012-06-01 11:29

On 2012-06-01 10:40 , Quagmire Wrote:

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Beat better player - learb - improve. Simples. Im very fortunate to have unlimited access to practice with the most talented youngster in the country, and learn something every time i play against MARK. I dont fear playing anyone, esprcially not for a tenner. For £100, i would definitely want handicaps, but i wouldnt be cutting them out of tourneys.

That isnt to say that Liams idea is a bad one, it certainly isnt, but as i said before, and as Lunny has said in other threads, not enough tourneys for him, Arfan, Chris etc to play inbetween GB9 events. If theres regular tourneys including the better players, there wouldnt be this discussion, and everything would be hunkydory


Finally, someone that isnt a cat2 understands!!




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posticon   Posted: 2012-06-01 11:34

DRM that last comment has revealed your identity! I apologise I dont know your name but your the guy in the hustlin Seminole tour t shirt that plays the bank pool and one pocket?

Am I close?!



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posticon   Posted: 2012-06-01 11:35

Dave dont know how to spell the surname Mckay



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posticon   Posted: 2012-06-01 11:43

I reckon we got it Luggsy! Good to know ho you are Dave! No man I've ever seen loves pool as much as you do! Endless hours of practice and knowledge with an OB!!



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